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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://www.kidunltd.com/scribbles/2008/01/03/creativity/comment-page-1/#comment-3413</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However dissipating, follow your thinking about the lack of creativity in India to its end.  I did the same many years ago.  Perhaps you will come to this approximate conclusion:

What we praise as creativity in people or societies are riddled with biases.  Over the centuries, no one society or people set out to be creative deliberately. Mostly, they were being deliberate about one or two things such as religion and social status. Shifting fortunes, accidental but happy coincidences; in other words perfectly random happenings can sometimes combine to create wealth, educational vibrancy, etc.  We, the later generations attribute it to an inherent merit, which it is not.

In other words, there are few general rules such as hard work, honest work, curiousity, etc., that promote creativity.  However, success is mainly due to random social happenings that combine with basic rules.

Can one plan to be creative?  I think not.  We can only be truthful in our approach to general inquiry in our lives.  Leave it to others to attach labels calling it creative or dull.

So, continue in your musings. Just make sure you are truthful to yourself.  You will find the true answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However dissipating, follow your thinking about the lack of creativity in India to its end.  I did the same many years ago.  Perhaps you will come to this approximate conclusion:</p>
<p>What we praise as creativity in people or societies are riddled with biases.  Over the centuries, no one society or people set out to be creative deliberately. Mostly, they were being deliberate about one or two things such as religion and social status. Shifting fortunes, accidental but happy coincidences; in other words perfectly random happenings can sometimes combine to create wealth, educational vibrancy, etc.  We, the later generations attribute it to an inherent merit, which it is not.</p>
<p>In other words, there are few general rules such as hard work, honest work, curiousity, etc., that promote creativity.  However, success is mainly due to random social happenings that combine with basic rules.</p>
<p>Can one plan to be creative?  I think not.  We can only be truthful in our approach to general inquiry in our lives.  Leave it to others to attach labels calling it creative or dull.</p>
<p>So, continue in your musings. Just make sure you are truthful to yourself.  You will find the true answer.</p>
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		<title>By: pallavi</title>
		<link>http://www.kidunltd.com/scribbles/2008/01/03/creativity/comment-page-1/#comment-986</link>
		<dc:creator>pallavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:)
have a great week ahead!</description>
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have a great week ahead!</p>
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		<title>By: Kid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not in a league where I would have fans !!</description>
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		<title>By: pallavi</title>
		<link>http://www.kidunltd.com/scribbles/2008/01/03/creativity/comment-page-1/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator>pallavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point Taken, sir! 

Ps: do you have fan club??? can I have the link to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point Taken, sir! </p>
<p>Ps: do you have fan club??? can I have the link to it?</p>
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		<title>By: Kid</title>
		<link>http://www.kidunltd.com/scribbles/2008/01/03/creativity/comment-page-1/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator>Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess, I started to look at the country from  a different perspective and that&#039;s why the post came up. And yes, I am proud to be an Indian, but that does not mean I turn a blind eye on the flaws and places where we can improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess, I started to look at the country from  a different perspective and that&#8217;s why the post came up. And yes, I am proud to be an Indian, but that does not mean I turn a blind eye on the flaws and places where we can improve.</p>
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		<title>By: pallavi</title>
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		<dc:creator>pallavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kid.. try looking at India from a different perspective, trust me! we truly are blessed to be born in the country... 

anway Like i said.. I rest my case...
it is a great to see that you want to challenge yourself and the others to open their eyes and can I also add mind to think, create, contribute to our development.... I thank you again for creating this platform for discussion. Looking forward to reading more such thought provking posts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kid.. try looking at India from a different perspective, trust me! we truly are blessed to be born in the country&#8230; </p>
<p>anway Like i said.. I rest my case&#8230;<br />
it is a great to see that you want to challenge yourself and the others to open their eyes and can I also add mind to think, create, contribute to our development&#8230;. I thank you again for creating this platform for discussion. Looking forward to reading more such thought provking posts!</p>
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		<title>By: Kid</title>
		<link>http://www.kidunltd.com/scribbles/2008/01/03/creativity/comment-page-1/#comment-981</link>
		<dc:creator>Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Delhi&#039;s Metro is not among the most advanced. And whatever &#039;advanced&#039; technology we has been brought in from outside the country (South Korea, Japan and many other countries!!)

And if you think Germany/Japan and other such countries &quot;were&quot; much ahead of us, I would say we better have a more closer look. They still are much much ahead. And a big NO for our economy and development. If you think economy is Sr. Ambani brother becomes richer, then you are wrong. We still have the World&#039;s highest number of people which are still below poverty line. We are still in a age where the meaning of being literate is to be able to write your name. Contrary to our popular misconception, we are still very much couples with rest of the world and more importantly the US. Most of the so called economic boom you are saying was from FII investing in our country. IT industry, which itself accounts for a huge chunk of our GDP,  is totally dependent on outside the country. 

What is development where by we are mired by corruption?? How come when TATA Telecom launches Blackberry it brings out security issues, yet Airtel and Hutch/Vodaphone had been giving Blackberry services for over an year. How come our politicians still get votes by promising free TVs sets, electricity and rice?? But I guess I am moving to a different topic of debate. 

But if you are saying we are developing by a very rapid pace, I would ask you to classify in which category does countries like South Korea, Malayasia come??

We are so happy about the Rs 5 rupee insurance which will cater for basic of medication. I wonder, what you comment on other countries which have free medical health cover for the basic things??

BTW, did you know, an Indian is the most taxed person in the world. Where by we are taxed at every stage of the production/purchase cycle?? Where does this all go when I still face 10 hrs a day power cut, 2 hours for 2 days a week water supply and pot-holed ridden roads??

I think it is about time we started to open our eyes and face the reality instead of just sitting and watching the Rosy picture which the machine of government propaganda has been showing us for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Delhi&#8217;s Metro is not among the most advanced. And whatever &#8216;advanced&#8217; technology we has been brought in from outside the country (South Korea, Japan and many other countries!!)</p>
<p>And if you think Germany/Japan and other such countries &#8220;were&#8221; much ahead of us, I would say we better have a more closer look. They still are much much ahead. And a big NO for our economy and development. If you think economy is Sr. Ambani brother becomes richer, then you are wrong. We still have the World&#8217;s highest number of people which are still below poverty line. We are still in a age where the meaning of being literate is to be able to write your name. Contrary to our popular misconception, we are still very much couples with rest of the world and more importantly the US. Most of the so called economic boom you are saying was from FII investing in our country. IT industry, which itself accounts for a huge chunk of our GDP,  is totally dependent on outside the country. </p>
<p>What is development where by we are mired by corruption?? How come when TATA Telecom launches Blackberry it brings out security issues, yet Airtel and Hutch/Vodaphone had been giving Blackberry services for over an year. How come our politicians still get votes by promising free TVs sets, electricity and rice?? But I guess I am moving to a different topic of debate. </p>
<p>But if you are saying we are developing by a very rapid pace, I would ask you to classify in which category does countries like South Korea, Malayasia come??</p>
<p>We are so happy about the Rs 5 rupee insurance which will cater for basic of medication. I wonder, what you comment on other countries which have free medical health cover for the basic things??</p>
<p>BTW, did you know, an Indian is the most taxed person in the world. Where by we are taxed at every stage of the production/purchase cycle?? Where does this all go when I still face 10 hrs a day power cut, 2 hours for 2 days a week water supply and pot-holed ridden roads??</p>
<p>I think it is about time we started to open our eyes and face the reality instead of just sitting and watching the Rosy picture which the machine of government propaganda has been showing us for years.</p>
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		<title>By: pallavi</title>
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		<dc:creator>pallavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you are aware that Metro solved the commuting problem of lakhs of Delhi ppl like me who before were running after buses and half our time was spent on the roads… chaos will happen because they are working with million limitations around them- I think it is a commendable achievement for us and ya… India has now one of the most advanced metros in the world…
I have no problems in NRIs being called Indians, but I have problem with people who residing in India think that people like Sabeer Bhatia are people among us working for us. No, they are working for the US.- point taken their contributions are not while they work in India and we should not take credit for it…
But the astronauts whether it is Kalpana Chawla or Rakesh Sharma did a lot of research that’s why they went to space- sorry I have not read their research papers hence will not be able to site examples.. But it is not Just it is a big deal 
 I prefer the tag of developing rather than developed at least we can challenge ourselves every day to achieve and strive for more… I agree Japan and Germany faced the wars around the same time when we got our Independence. These countries were ‘ mind you I said were’ much ahead of us. Sadly that is not the case, our economy and development across the board continues to happen. While Japan’s economy has crashed and Germany too is facing a very hard time, they are not able to generate enough jobs for their people (qualified), the economy is in terrible shape. The only big thing they can boast of is automobile industry which also is facing a lot of hardships. While we on the other hand with our minds have been able to set up a lot of small/ medium/large scale industries (all result of creativity). 
Creativity is much more than mass production- but the point is if mass production is meeting requirements of the society keeping the affordability factor in mind then that’s  the idea of creativity- something from which the masses benefit and not just a limited section of people.
If I may give another example. –Dr. Devi shetty, the renowned cardiologist has set up this amazing Rs. 5 health Insurance scheme for the poor and under privileged people in Karnataka. A scheme meant for the masses and benefited by the massed.

I appreciate the points listed by you. Thanks for creating a platform where we all can exchange our views. (and yes, for me spaces like these are also examples of creativity)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you are aware that Metro solved the commuting problem of lakhs of Delhi ppl like me who before were running after buses and half our time was spent on the roads… chaos will happen because they are working with million limitations around them- I think it is a commendable achievement for us and ya… India has now one of the most advanced metros in the world…<br />
I have no problems in NRIs being called Indians, but I have problem with people who residing in India think that people like Sabeer Bhatia are people among us working for us. No, they are working for the US.- point taken their contributions are not while they work in India and we should not take credit for it…<br />
But the astronauts whether it is Kalpana Chawla or Rakesh Sharma did a lot of research that’s why they went to space- sorry I have not read their research papers hence will not be able to site examples.. But it is not Just it is a big deal<br />
 I prefer the tag of developing rather than developed at least we can challenge ourselves every day to achieve and strive for more… I agree Japan and Germany faced the wars around the same time when we got our Independence. These countries were ‘ mind you I said were’ much ahead of us. Sadly that is not the case, our economy and development across the board continues to happen. While Japan’s economy has crashed and Germany too is facing a very hard time, they are not able to generate enough jobs for their people (qualified), the economy is in terrible shape. The only big thing they can boast of is automobile industry which also is facing a lot of hardships. While we on the other hand with our minds have been able to set up a lot of small/ medium/large scale industries (all result of creativity).<br />
Creativity is much more than mass production- but the point is if mass production is meeting requirements of the society keeping the affordability factor in mind then that’s  the idea of creativity- something from which the masses benefit and not just a limited section of people.<br />
If I may give another example. –Dr. Devi shetty, the renowned cardiologist has set up this amazing Rs. 5 health Insurance scheme for the poor and under privileged people in Karnataka. A scheme meant for the masses and benefited by the massed.</p>
<p>I appreciate the points listed by you. Thanks for creating a platform where we all can exchange our views. (and yes, for me spaces like these are also examples of creativity)</p>
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		<title>By: Kid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe creativity is different from mass production or manufacturing. Yes, Nano is an example of creativity, because they tried to do things differently. But Maruti is not, simply because they did the same things in a bit cheaper way.

Metro is not an example of creativity. No, it is something that already available world over, we simply have used it to solve our mess. We did not improve on anything in using Metro. Infact, I believe we have made strategical blunders in drafting plans for Metro.

I have no problems in NRIs being called Indians, but I have problem with people who residing in India think that people like Sabeer Bhatia are people among us working for us. No, they are working for the US.

BTW, Kalpana Chawla did not create anything, she was just an astronaut.  Neither did Rakesh Sharma, for that matter.

The object of the post is not self-sufficient country (and we are NOT self-sufficient). The object of the post is for people to looking within ourselves and understand even though we are capable, why is we are not doing anything worthwhile. We are only living in the shadows of the Bigs like US and EU.

Statement, that we were colonised and are poor is just a lame excuse. Both Japan and Germany were destroyed after WWII (almost same time we got our Independence) and I believe there is  have huge difference in the development  that is in Japan/Germany and India.

Again, I would emphasize, Creativity is much more different than mass-producing things at a cheaper, using somebody else pre-defined methods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe creativity is different from mass production or manufacturing. Yes, Nano is an example of creativity, because they tried to do things differently. But Maruti is not, simply because they did the same things in a bit cheaper way.</p>
<p>Metro is not an example of creativity. No, it is something that already available world over, we simply have used it to solve our mess. We did not improve on anything in using Metro. Infact, I believe we have made strategical blunders in drafting plans for Metro.</p>
<p>I have no problems in NRIs being called Indians, but I have problem with people who residing in India think that people like Sabeer Bhatia are people among us working for us. No, they are working for the US.</p>
<p>BTW, Kalpana Chawla did not create anything, she was just an astronaut.  Neither did Rakesh Sharma, for that matter.</p>
<p>The object of the post is not self-sufficient country (and we are NOT self-sufficient). The object of the post is for people to looking within ourselves and understand even though we are capable, why is we are not doing anything worthwhile. We are only living in the shadows of the Bigs like US and EU.</p>
<p>Statement, that we were colonised and are poor is just a lame excuse. Both Japan and Germany were destroyed after WWII (almost same time we got our Independence) and I believe there is  have huge difference in the development  that is in Japan/Germany and India.</p>
<p>Again, I would emphasize, Creativity is much more different than mass-producing things at a cheaper, using somebody else pre-defined methods.</p>
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		<title>By: pallavi</title>
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		<dc:creator>pallavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you don’t count creating solutions as creativity? If Maruti made a cheaper car which by the way is recognized world cover, that is not a big enough feat for you? 

Is green revolution, white revolution, sliver revolution and many more such revolutions, not worth being examples of our becoming self sufficient country in terms of produces?

Is Jaipur foot, nano, rock garden not worthy to be mentioned as examples of creativity or you think there is someone else behind the success of these inventions as well?

Development of our Metro system which utilizes labour in abundance and gives an opportunity to thousands and more to earn their daily living not good enough example of creativity plus utility… 

If kalpana Sharma, Sabeer Bhatia like to be known as Indians- is their an issue on that? We too have gone to space and come back... you remember Rakesh Sharma’s speech from the space- when he was asked bharat wahan sey kaisa dihkta hai- he replied Sare Jahan Sey achha; isn’t that creativity?

Please don’t forget the fact other countries are much advanced than we are because either they got their Independence much before us ( US) or ruled us ( England)

And yes, if you go and shop in the US and other countries- you will get stuff and clothes on which labels read ‘Made in India’ isn’t that Creativity??? Then I think I don’t know the definition of creativity and I rest my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you don’t count creating solutions as creativity? If Maruti made a cheaper car which by the way is recognized world cover, that is not a big enough feat for you? </p>
<p>Is green revolution, white revolution, sliver revolution and many more such revolutions, not worth being examples of our becoming self sufficient country in terms of produces?</p>
<p>Is Jaipur foot, nano, rock garden not worthy to be mentioned as examples of creativity or you think there is someone else behind the success of these inventions as well?</p>
<p>Development of our Metro system which utilizes labour in abundance and gives an opportunity to thousands and more to earn their daily living not good enough example of creativity plus utility… </p>
<p>If kalpana Sharma, Sabeer Bhatia like to be known as Indians- is their an issue on that? We too have gone to space and come back&#8230; you remember Rakesh Sharma’s speech from the space- when he was asked bharat wahan sey kaisa dihkta hai- he replied Sare Jahan Sey achha; isn’t that creativity?</p>
<p>Please don’t forget the fact other countries are much advanced than we are because either they got their Independence much before us ( US) or ruled us ( England)</p>
<p>And yes, if you go and shop in the US and other countries- you will get stuff and clothes on which labels read ‘Made in India’ isn’t that Creativity??? Then I think I don’t know the definition of creativity and I rest my case.</p>
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